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#1 Le 04/05/2023, à 00:05

Lalo-Ubuntu

[Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Bonjour !

J'aimerais prévenir certaines applications de se lancer automatiquement en arrière plan au démarrage de ma session GNOME sous Ubuntu 22.04, principalement gnome-software. J'ai suivi cette procédure (en anglais), mais cela n'a pas fonctionné, gnome-software s'est quand même lancé. Comment pourrais-je m'y prendre ?

Je me questionne aussi quant à d'autres programmes (voir capture d'écran ci-après).
Je trouve qu'il y a trop de programmes liés au calendrier. Ce que j'aimerais : c'est que lorsque je reçois de mon calendrier une notification, elle puisse s'afficher pour m'en informer, mais que les programmes superflus ne se soient pas lancés automatiquement.
Est-il possible de faire cela ?

En tout cas la question du calendrier est un peu moins importante, je cherche à résoudre celle de gnome-software en priorité.
Merciiii d'avance pour votre aide !

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Modération : merci d'utiliser des images de petite taille (300x300) ou des miniatures pointant sur ces images.

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#2 Le 04/05/2023, à 01:10

Coeur Noir

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Hello !

Les vraies questions sont plutôt :
⋅ qu'est-ce que tu penses gagner en ne démarrant pas ces services et applications ?
ou :
⋅ quel est le problème que tu penses résoudre en ne démarrant pas telles applications ?

Les applications au démarrage sont visibles dans l'utilitaire …« Applications au démarrage » trouvable dans la vue des appli's
ou qui peut être lancé depuis un terminal via

gnome-session-properties

Ça te montrera les appli's orientées « utilisateur » et pas celles orientées « environnement de l'utilisateur. »
Pour voir les secondes il faudra passer un

sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop

comme indiqué à la fin de https://itsfoss.com/manage-startup-applications-ubuntu/
Pour ramener ces lanceurs à leur état initial, opération inverse :

sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=false/NoDisplay=true/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop

Une appli' se lance quand il existe une copie « activée » de son lanceur ( fichier en .desktop ) dans les dossiers
/etc/xdg/autostart/ ( globalement côté système ) ou $HOME/.config/autostart/ ( dans la session d'un utilisateur donné. )

Vérifie préalablement à quoi sert une appli' avant de la désactiver - ou seulement retarder son démarrage ( voir Delay the start up programs dans le lien précédent. )

Certains services sont quant à eux gérés par systemd - mais ceux-là faut vraiment bien savoir ce qu'on fait avant d'y mettre les mains…

______________________________________________

si un modérateur passe par là il va te gronder parce que tu as posté une image trop grande ( maxi 300px dans les règles du forum ).
Utilise plutôt les vignettes / miniatures ; ou des retours de commande. Voir liens Bien rédiger ⋅ Retour commande ⋅ Insérer image ci-dessous.

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#3 Le 05/05/2023, à 08:56

Lalo-Ubuntu

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Oui tu as raison. En fait pour gnome-software, c'est pour la raison suivante :

J'aime Ubuntu, mais je n'aime pas les snap.
Alors je privilégie les paquets deb des dépôts d'Ubuntu.
Et pour les autres applications, j'utilise Flatpak.
Or, flatpak n'étant pas supporté par snap-store, je l'ai supprimé et ai installé gnome-software à la place.
Seulement, lorsque gnome-software fonctionne en arrière-plan pendant longtemps, il bug très souvent quand je l'ouvre.

La solution que j'ai trouvée : arrêter le processus en arrière plan de gnome-software, puis l'ouvrir graphiquement.
Je voulais donc tester le fait d'empêcher que l'app ne tourne en arrière-plan dès le démarrage pour voir si cela permettait d'éviter d'avoir à arrêter/rouvrir l'app.

Je vais tester les infos que tu m'as données et j'indiquerai ce que j'ai obtenu comme résultat ici !

Dernière modification par Lalo-Ubuntu (Le 05/05/2023, à 08:57)

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#4 Le 05/05/2023, à 09:36

iznobe

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Bonjour ,

J'ai suivi cette procédure (en anglais), mais cela n'a pas fonctionné, gnome-software s'est quand même lancé.

un lien ? de quelle procédure parles tu ?

si tu le lances a partir du terminal , et que tu laisses tourner jusqu ' a ce que ca plante , puis tu copies le retour du terminal pour le donner ici , ca dis quoi ?

gnome-software

       ----------------

donne aussi le retour de :

journalctl -b -p err
sudo dmesg | grep -i err

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#5 Le 05/05/2023, à 12:04

Coeur Noir

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

OK.

Il y a donc 2 idées :
⋅ désactiver / désinstaller complètement snap ;
⋅ ne garder que gnome-software version .deb + son plugin flatpak mais sans son plugin snap.

En conséquence, si tu utilises Firefox, il faudra le réinstaller depuis son archive autonome ou depuis le ppa mozillateam ( puisque Firefox en .deb n'existe plus dans les dépôts Ubuntu. )


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#6 Le 07/05/2023, à 09:39

Lalo-Ubuntu

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

iznobe a écrit :

Bonjour ,
un lien ? de quelle procédure parles tu ?

J'ai oublié de mettre le lien ! Le voici : https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments … _starting/ Je vais éditer mon message aussi.
Alors, je ne sais pas si cela s'affichera dans le terminal, car ce problème que je rencontre parfois (là par exemple, quand j'ai voulu faire le test, cela c'est bien passé), le problème est le suivant :
Gnome Software se lance bien, il affiche les quelques logiciels sur sa page d'accueil qu'il avait en cache, mais si je souhaite cliquer sur l'un d'entre eux en particulier ou faire une recherche, il ne parvient pas à les afficher, ça cherche sans s'arrêter. Comme s'il n'arrivait pas à interroger les dépôts.
Quand ça m'arrive, j'arrête le processus gnome-software dans le Moniteur Système, je rouvre gnome-software, je fais ma recherche et ça marche !

Voici le résultat des commandes :

lalo@LaloLaptop:~$ journalctl -b -p err
mai 07 08:23:35 LaloLaptop kernel: x86/mktme: No known encryption algorithm is supported: 0x0
mai 07 08:23:35 LaloLaptop kernel: pci 0000:00:07.0: DPC: RP PIO log size 0 is invalid
mai 07 08:23:35 LaloLaptop kernel: pci 0000:00:07.2: DPC: RP PIO log size 0 is invalid
mai 07 08:23:35 LaloLaptop kernel: psmouse serio1: synaptics: Unable to query device: -5
mai 07 08:23:36 LaloLaptop kernel: spi-nor spi0.0: unrecognized JEDEC id bytes: 20 60 19 20 60 19
mai 07 08:23:37 LaloLaptop kernel: ACPI BIOS Error (bug): Could not resolve symbol [\_TZ.ETMD], AE_NOT_FOUND (20220331/psargs-330)
mai 07 08:23:37 LaloLaptop kernel: ACPI Error: Aborting method \_SB.IETM._OSC due to previous error (AE_NOT_FOUND) (20220331/psparse-529)
mai 07 08:23:38 LaloLaptop gnome-session-binary[1262]: GLib-GIO-CRITICAL: g_bus_get_sync: assertion 'error == NULL || *error == NULL' failed
mai 07 08:23:38 LaloLaptop gnome-session-binary[1262]: GLib-GIO-CRITICAL: g_bus_get_sync: assertion 'error == NULL || *error == NULL' failed
mai 07 08:23:38 LaloLaptop kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Malformed MSFT vendor event: 0x02
mai 07 08:23:39 LaloLaptop canonical-livepatch.canonical-livepatchd[1064]: Task "refresh" returned an error: livepatch check failed: POST request to "https://livepatch.canon>
mai 07 08:23:49 LaloLaptop gdm-password][1823]: gkr-pam: unable to locate daemon control file
mai 07 08:23:50 LaloLaptop systemd[1831]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-binary.
mai 07 08:23:53 LaloLaptop systemd[1831]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-binary.
mai 07 08:23:56 LaloLaptop gdm-launch-environment][1150]: GLib-GObject: g_object_unref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
mai 07 08:24:09 LaloLaptop canonical-livepatch.canonical-livepatchd[1064]: Task "refresh" returned an error: livepatch check failed: POST request to "https://livepatch.canon>
mai 07 09:19:34 LaloLaptop gnome-session-binary[11997]: GLib-GIO-CRITICAL: g_bus_get_sync: assertion 'error == NULL || *error == NULL' failed
mai 07 09:19:34 LaloLaptop gnome-session-binary[11997]: GLib-GIO-CRITICAL: g_bus_get_sync: assertion 'error == NULL || *error == NULL' failed
mai 07 09:19:41 LaloLaptop gdm-password][12449]: gkr-pam: unable to locate daemon control file
mai 07 09:19:41 LaloLaptop systemd[1831]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-binary.
mai 07 09:19:41 LaloLaptop systemd[1831]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-binary.
mai 07 09:19:43 LaloLaptop systemd[1831]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-binary.
mai 07 09:19:43 LaloLaptop systemd[1831]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-binary.
mai 07 09:19:43 LaloLaptop systemd[1831]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-binary.
mai 07 09:19:45 LaloLaptop gdm-launch-environment][11943]: GLib-GObject: g_object_unref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
mai 07 09:23:40 LaloLaptop gnome-session-binary[15321]: GLib-GIO-CRITICAL: g_bus_get_sync: assertion 'error == NULL || *error == NULL' failed
mai 07 09:23:40 LaloLaptop gnome-session-binary[15321]: GLib-GIO-CRITICAL: g_bus_get_sync: assertion 'error == NULL || *error == NULL' failed
mai 07 09:23:45 LaloLaptop gdm-password][15767]: gkr-pam: unable to locate daemon control file
mai 07 09:23:46 LaloLaptop systemd[1831]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-binary.
mai 07 09:23:50 LaloLaptop gdm-launch-environment][15277]: GLib-GObject: g_object_unref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
mai 07 09:26:13 LaloLaptop gnome-session-binary[18036]: GLib-GIO-CRITICAL: g_bus_get_sync: assertion 'error == NULL || *error == NULL' failed
mai 07 09:26:13 LaloLaptop gnome-session-binary[18036]: GLib-GIO-CRITICAL: g_bus_get_sync: assertion 'error == NULL || *error == NULL' failed
mai 07 09:26:18 LaloLaptop gdm-password][18488]: gkr-pam: unable to locate daemon control file
mai 07 09:26:18 LaloLaptop systemd[1831]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-binary.
mai 07 09:26:20 LaloLaptop systemd[1831]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-binary.
mai 07 09:26:22 LaloLaptop gdm-launch-environment][17993]: GLib-GObject: g_object_unref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
lines 1-36/36 (END)
lalo@LaloLaptop:~$ sudo dmesg | grep -i err
[sudo] Mot de passe de lalo : 
[    0.219385] ACPI: EC: interrupt blocked
[    0.222876] ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing
[    0.558158] ACPI: EC: interrupt unblocked
[    1.138748] RAS: Correctable Errors collector initialized.
[    1.372333] i801_smbus 0000:00:1f.4: SMBus using PCI interrupt
[   20.493355] sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl 0000:00:1f.3: use msi interrupt mode
[   20.741463] skl_hda_dsp_generic skl_hda_dsp_generic: ASoC: Parent card not yet available, widget card binding deferred
[   21.407254] ACPI BIOS Error (bug): Could not resolve symbol [\_TZ.ETMD], AE_NOT_FOUND (20220331/psargs-330)
[   21.407352] ACPI Error: Aborting method \_SB.IETM._OSC due to previous error (AE_NOT_FOUND) (20220331/psparse-529)

En tout cas le problème n'est pas survenu cette fois-ci...

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#7 Le 07/05/2023, à 09:55

iznobe

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Bonjour , as tu activé " livepatch "?
                      ------------------------
Montre les sources :

sudo apt update

et

find /etc/apt -type f -regex ".*\(list\|sources\)$" -exec bash -c 'echo "$1"; grep -Env "^#|^$" "$1"; echo' _ '{}' \;

                      ------------------------
Dans le lien de " la procedure " ( c ' est plus une discussion qu ' une procédure ) , tu as passée toutes les commandes ?
car d' après ce qui est dit , une seul est suffisante .


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#8 Le 07/05/2023, à 13:19

Lalo-Ubuntu

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Oui, j'ai live patch activé sur mon ordi. Voici mes sources :

Atteint :1 https://linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable InRelease
Réception de :2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security InRelease [110 kB]
Atteint :3 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy InRelease                 
Réception de :4 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates InRelease [119 kB]
Atteint :5 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/helkaluin/webp-pixbuf-loader/ubuntu jammy InRelease
Atteint :6 https://repo.protonvpn.com/debian stable InRelease                  
Réception de :7 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-backports InRelease [108 kB]
Réception de :8 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozillateam/ppa/ubuntu jammy InRelease [23,8 kB]
Atteint :9 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/papirus/papirus/ubuntu jammy InRelease
Réception de :10 https://esm.ubuntu.com/infra/ubuntu jammy-infra-security InRelease [7453 B]
Réception de :11 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security/main amd64 Packages [804 kB]
Réception de :12 https://esm.ubuntu.com/infra/ubuntu jammy-infra-updates InRelease [7452 B]
Réception de :13 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security/main i386 Packages [294 kB]
Réception de :14 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security/main Translation-en [156 kB]
Réception de :15 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [41,5 kB]
Réception de :16 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security/main amd64 c-n-f Metadata [9144 B]
Réception de :17 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security/restricted amd64 Packages [838 kB]
Réception de :18 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [101 kB]
Réception de :19 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security/restricted Translation-en [131 kB]
Réception de :20 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [18,5 kB]
Réception de :21 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [270 kB]
Réception de :22 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates/multiverse amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [940 B]
Réception de :23 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-backports/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [8004 B]
Réception de :24 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-backports/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [12,9 kB]
Réception de :25 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozillateam/ppa/ubuntu jammy/main amd64 Packages [33,9 kB]
/etc/apt/sources.list
5:deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jammy main restricted
10:deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jammy-updates main restricted
16:deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jammy universe
18:deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jammy-updates universe
26:deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jammy multiverse
28:deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jammy-updates multiverse
36:deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jammy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
39:deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security main restricted
41:deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security universe
43:deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security multiverse

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/devolo-updates.list

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/helkaluin-ubuntu-webp-pixbuf-loader-jammy.list
1:deb https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/helkaluin/webp-pixbuf-loader/ubuntu/ jammy main

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-earth-pro.list

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/mozillateam-ubuntu-ppa-jammy.list
1:deb https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozillateam/ppa/ubuntu/ jammy main

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/teamviewer.list
18:deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/teamviewer-keyring.gpg] https://linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable main

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/protonvpn-stable.list
4:deb [arch="all", signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/protonvpn-stable-archive-keyring.gpg] https://repo.protonvpn.com/debian stable main

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu-esm-infra.list
1:deb https://esm.ubuntu.com/infra/ubuntu jammy-infra-security main
3:deb https://esm.ubuntu.com/infra/ubuntu jammy-infra-updates main

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/snwh-ubuntu-ppa-jammy.list

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/papirus-ubuntu-papirus-jammy.list
1:deb https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/papirus/papirus/ubuntu/ jammy main

Dans la discussion, je n'ai pas passé celle-ci : gsettings set org.gnome.software download-updates false Je vais voir ce que ça donne. / Edit:ça n'a pas changé, gnome-software se lance toujours...

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#9 Le 07/05/2023, à 14:57

Coeur Noir

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Dans la discussion, seule l'astuce du premier message est à faire, éventuellement.
Et c'est peu ou prou la même chose qu'au #2.
Et à vérifier que c'est valable aujourd'hui dans Ubuntu ( le message date d'il y a 4 ans, et concernant Debian peut-être sans systemd à l'époque… )

En gros, ajouter un lanceur dans ~/.config/autostart, lanceur qui fait exprès de ne pas lancer gnome-software avec l'option Autostart-enabled=false ;-)

S'assurer aussi de ton installation de gnome-software ( et non snap-store ) :

snap list --all
dpkg -l | grep gnome-software

ainsi que de la mise à jour des caches de APT :

sudo apt clean ; sudo apt autoclean ; sudo apt update

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#10 Le 07/05/2023, à 16:04

Lalo-Ubuntu

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Je confirme, j'ai bien désinstallé snap-store. Voici ce que donne la deuxième commande :

ii  gnome-software                             41.5-2ubuntu2                                   amd64        Software Center for GNOME
ii  gnome-software-common                      41.5-2ubuntu2                                   all          Software Center for GNOME (common files)
ii  gnome-software-plugin-flatpak              41.5-2ubuntu2                                   amd64        Flatpak support for GNOME Software
ii  gnome-software-plugin-snap                 41.5-2ubuntu2                                   amd64        Snap support for GNOME Software

J'ai gardé le plugin snap, parce que j'en ai besoin pour une ou deux app.
__
Voilà! Le problème avec gnome-software vient d'avoir lieu, mais aucun message d'erreur. J'ai fait une capture vidéo : https://kdrive.infomaniak.com/app/share … 7779dd810d
Le problème est temporairement résolu après avoir arrêté le processus et relancé gnome-software.

Qu'en pensez-vous ?

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#11 Le 07/05/2023, à 18:54

iznobe

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Dejà , pour commencer , livepatch est me  semble t il lancé par gnome software ( pas sur mais ca parait logique ) .

Vu :

mai 07 08:24:09 LaloLaptop canonical-livepatch.canonical-livepatchd[1064]: Task "refresh" returned an error: livepatch check failed: POST request to "https://livepatch.canon>

qui apparait plusieurs fois dans le retour de journalctl , je commencerai par le  desactiver et voir si les plantages continuent .
comme on ne voit pas la fin de la ligne dans le retour difficile d ' en dire plus a propos de cette erreur .

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#12 Le 07/05/2023, à 22:38

Coeur Noir

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Et donner les retours des commandes suggérés, aussi.

sudo apt clean ; sudo apt autoclean ; sudo apt update

et

snap list --all

Ton gnome-software a besoin que :
⋅ le gestionnaire de paquets natifs ( apt ) soit carré ;
⋅ mais aussi que les sources pour flatpak ET snap soient elles aussi carrées, puisque tu as les 2 plugins.


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#13 Le 08/05/2023, à 09:35

iznobe

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

j ' ajouterais aussi okazou :

sudo find ~ \( ! -user $USER -o ! -group $USER \) | wc -l

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#14 Le 08/05/2023, à 23:31

Lalo-Ubuntu

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Voici les retours demandés :

lalo@LaloLaptop:~$ sudo apt clean ; sudo apt autoclean ; sudo apt update
Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
Construction de l'arbre des dépendances... Fait
Lecture des informations d'état... Fait      
Atteint :1 https://linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable InRelease
Atteint :2 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy InRelease                                                                                                                                            
Atteint :3 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates InRelease                                                                                                                                    
Atteint :4 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-backports InRelease                                                                                                                                  
Atteint :5 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/helkaluin/webp-pixbuf-loader/ubuntu jammy InRelease                                                                         
Atteint :6 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security InRelease                                                                              
Atteint :7 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozillateam/ppa/ubuntu jammy InRelease                                                                 
Atteint :8 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/papirus/papirus/ubuntu jammy InRelease               
Atteint :9 https://esm.ubuntu.com/infra/ubuntu jammy-infra-security InRelease                    
Atteint :10 https://esm.ubuntu.com/infra/ubuntu jammy-infra-updates InRelease
Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
Construction de l'arbre des dépendances... Fait
Lecture des informations d'état... Fait      
1 paquet peut être mis à jour. Exécutez « apt list --upgradable » pour le voir.
lalo@LaloLaptop:~$ snap list --all
Nom                        Version                     Révision  Suivi            Éditeur           Notes
bare                       1.0                         5         latest/stable    canonical✓        base
canonical-livepatch        10.5.5                      209       latest/stable    canonical✓        -
canonical-livepatch        10.5.4                      202       latest/stable    canonical✓        désactivé
core                       16-2.58.2                   14784     latest/stable    canonical✓        core,désactivé
core                       16-2.58.3                   14946     latest/stable    canonical✓        core
core18                     20230308                    2714      latest/stable    canonical✓        base,désactivé
core18                     20230320                    2721      latest/stable    canonical✓        base
core20                     20230404                    1879      latest/stable    canonical✓        base
core20                     20230308                    1852      latest/stable    canonical✓        base,désactivé
core22                     20230404                    617       latest/stable    canonical✓        base
core22                     20230325                    607       latest/stable    canonical✓        base,désactivé
gnome-3-28-1804            3.28.0-19-g98f9e67.98f9e67  198       latest/stable    canonical✓        -
gnome-3-28-1804            3.28.0-19-g98f9e67.98f9e67  194       latest/stable    canonical✓        désactivé
gnome-3-34-1804            0+git.3556cb3               90        latest/stable    canonical✓        désactivé
gnome-3-34-1804            0+git.3556cb3               93        latest/stable    canonical✓        -
gnome-3-38-2004            0+git.6f39565               137       latest/stable/…  canonical✓        désactivé
gnome-3-38-2004            0+git.6f39565               140       latest/stable/…  canonical✓        -
gnome-42-2204              0+git.587e965               102       latest/stable    canonical✓        -
gnome-42-2204              0+git.587e965               99        latest/stable    canonical✓        désactivé
gtk-common-themes          0.1-81-g442e511             1535      latest/stable/…  canonical✓        -
gtk-common-themes          0.1-79-ga83e90c             1534      latest/stable/…  canonical✓        désactivé
icon-theme-papirus         20230301                    5         latest/stable    capecrusader-121  -
icon-theme-papirus         20230301                    2         latest/stable    capecrusader-121  désactivé
qt515-core20               5.15.4                      27        latest/stable    keshavnrj✪        désactivé
qt515-core20               5.15.4                      28        latest/stable    keshavnrj✪        -
snapd                      2.59.1                      18933     latest/stable    canonical✓        snapd,désactivé
snapd                      2.59.2                      19122     latest/stable    canonical✓        snapd
snapd-desktop-integration  0.9                         83        latest/stable/…  canonical✓        -
snapd-desktop-integration  0.1                         57        latest/stable/…  canonical✓        désactivé
lalo@LaloLaptop:~$ sudo find ~ \( ! -user $USER -o ! -group $USER \) | wc -l
75199

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#15 Le 09/05/2023, à 02:38

Coeur Noir

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Quelques suggestions…

Le ppa https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/helkal … buf-loader n'est à priori plus nécessaire sous 22.04 :

This allows GDK applications (e.g. Eye of Gnome) to be able to view WebP images and animations.
Note that from 22.04 Jammy onwards this is already in the official repos (they've backported it), so you won't need this PPA unless you're still on 20.04 Focal.

Utiliser pour ça la commande ppa-purge.

Possibilité de faire un peu de ménage dans les snap ( pour virer les désactivés ) :

LANG=C snap list --all | awk '/disabled/{print $1, $3}' | while read snapname revision ; do sudo snap remove "$snapname" --revision="$revision" ; done

Problème de droits et permissions dans ton répertoire personnel :
actuellement 75199 éléments n'appartiennent plus à l'$USER titulaire de ce $HOME, c'est curieusement aberrant.
Et fâcheux car dans ton répertoire personnel tu es censé être le propriétaire de tous les éléments,
les visibles ( tes documents, médias… ) comme les cachés ( paramètres, configurations, préférences du moindre logiciel que tu utilises dont par exemple gnome-software ) !

Avant de te réattribuer la propriété de tous ces éléments, regardons quels sont les éléments cachés impactés et à qui ils appartiennent :

ls -ld .*

Autre possibilité, qui ne listera que les éléments cachés ne t'appartenant pas :

find ~ -name '.*' ! -user $USER -exec ls -ld {} \;

La cause la plus courante de ce genre de désappropriation - qui peut aller jusqu'au blocage d'une session selon les éléments impactés - c'est un mésusage de sudo, par exemple pour lancer des applications « graphiques ».
Or sudo on s'en sert exclusivement pour des actions qui ont lieu DANS un terminal ou DANS une console.
On ne s'en sert jamais pour lancer une application graphique
( qui ouvrira une nouvelle fenêtre en dehors du terminal ) au risque de corrompre les droits et permissions dans un répertoire personnel.

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#16 Le 14/05/2023, à 09:22

Lalo-Ubuntu

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Merci Coeur Noir pour ton message et tes informations. Je viens de supprimer les snaps désactivés et voilà le retour de ls -ld .* :

lalo@LaloXPS13:~$ ls -ld .*
drwxr-x--- 52 lalo lalo    4096 mai   13 11:03 .
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root    4096 avril 24  2022 ..
drwxrwxr-x  3 lalo lalo    4096 août  20  2022 .adobe
drwxrwxr-x  4 lalo lalo    4096 mai   13 10:43 .appdata
drwxrwxr-x  3 lalo lalo    4096 avril 25  2022 .audacity
drwxrwxr-x  5 lalo lalo    4096 mai    8 22:13 .audacity-data
-rw-r--r--  1 lalo lalo     220 févr. 13  2022 .bash_logout
-rw-r--r--  1 lalo lalo    3771 févr. 13  2022 .bashrc
drwx------ 81 lalo lalo    4096 mai    2 14:47 .cache
drwxr-xr-x  3 lalo lalo    4096 janv.  9 19:56 .cert
drwxrwxr-x  6 lalo lalo    4096 mai    8  2022 .clamtk
drwx------ 99 lalo lalo    4096 mai    8 19:58 .config
drwx------  3 lalo lalo    4096 févr. 23 21:47 .dbus
-rw-rw-r--  1 lalo lalo    2368 avril  4 15:36 .dingrc
drwxr-xr-x  6 lalo lalo    4096 août  20  2022 .dvdcss
drwxrwxr-x  3 lalo lalo    4096 févr. 11 19:53 .eteks
drwx------  2 lalo lalo    4096 déc.  27 00:48 .GameGuide
drwx------  4 lalo lalo    4096 mai   13 11:03 .gnupg
drwxrwxr-x  4 lalo lalo    4096 mai    8 23:46 .goldendict
drwx------  4 lalo lalo    4096 mai    8 21:43 .googleearth
drwxrwxr-x  2 lalo lalo    4096 mars  24  2022 .gphoto
-rw-rw-r--  1 lalo lalo      26 févr. 14  2022 .gtk-bookmarks
drwxrwxr-x  7 lalo lalo    4096 mars  19 08:51 .icons
drwxrwxr-x  4 lalo lalo    4096 févr. 11 19:50 .java
drwx------  3 lalo lalo    4096 avril 21  2022 .launchpadlib
-rw-rw-r--  1 lalo lalo    2562 janv.  3 17:12 .lmmsrc.xml
drwx------  3 lalo lalo    4096 févr. 16 16:42 .local
drwxrwxr-x  3 lalo lalo    4096 mars   6  2022 .macromedia
drwxrwxr-x  2 lalo lalo    4096 avril 13  2022 .minecraft
drwx------  5 lalo lalo    4096 mai   11  2022 .mozilla
drwxrwxr-x  2 lalo lalo    4096 mai   31  2022 .ODFRepar
-rw-r--r--  1 lalo lalo     363 avril  4 15:23 .pam_environment
drwxr-xr-x  6 lalo lalo    4096 avril 29 23:40 .paradoxlauncher
drwx------  3 lalo lalo    4096 févr. 14  2022 .pki
-rw-r--r--  1 lalo lalo     807 févr. 13  2022 .profile
drwxr-xr-x  2 lalo lalo    4096 févr.  3 19:28 .qt
drwx------  2 lalo lalo    4096 déc.  27 00:48 .QtWebEngineProcess
drwxrwxr-x  3 lalo lalo    4096 mars  12 14:17 .SoulseekQt
drwx------  2 lalo lalo    4096 févr. 13  2022 .ssh
drwxrwxr-x  3 lalo lalo    4096 avril 30 10:43 .steam
lrwxrwxrwx  1 lalo lalo      29 avril 30 08:43 .steampath -> /home/lalo/.steam/sdk32/steam
lrwxrwxrwx  1 lalo lalo      27 avril 30 08:43 .steampid -> /home/lalo/.steam/steam.pid
-rw-r--r--  1 lalo lalo       0 févr. 14  2022 .sudo_as_admin_successful
drwxrwxr-x  2 lalo lalo    4096 oct.  11  2022 .themes
drwx------  6 lalo lalo    4096 mars   7 08:03 .thunderbird
-rw-rw-r--  1 lalo lalo  109068 avril 22  2022 .tld_set
drwxr-xr-x  2 lalo games   4096 déc.   9 22:20 .tuxtype
drwxr-xr-x  3 lalo lalo    4096 févr. 14  2022 .var
-rw-rw-r--  1 lalo lalo     259 févr. 27 17:02 .wget-hsts
drwxrwxr-x  2 lalo lalo    4096 mai   31  2022 .XmlRepar
drwx------  2 lalo lalo    4096 avril  6 17:33 .xournal

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#17 Le 14/05/2023, à 09:55

iznobe

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Coeur Noir a écrit :

Autre possibilité, qui ne listera que les éléments cachés ne t'appartenant pas :

find ~ -name '.*' ! -user $USER -exec ls -ld {} \;

Bonjour , c' est bien plus precis a mon avis , vu le joyeux bins que ca a l' air d' être tongue

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#18 Le 14/05/2023, à 14:58

Coeur Noir

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

vu le joyeux bins que ca a l' air d' être

Bon en tout cas à ce premier niveau d'arborescence dans le répertoire perso' les éléments cachés appartiennent bien à lalo:lalo c'est plutôt bon signe.
Ça n'exclut pas de vérifier « dedans», effectivement.

@Lalo-Ubuntu
On va essayer de revenir au sujet initial, hein, qui est finalement chez toi : essayer de comprendre pourquoi gnome-software cahote.
Ça pourrait venir de config's perso's mal fagotées, d'où ces vérifications de droits et permissions dans ton répertoire perso'.
Ça pourrait venir de APT dont les caches ne seraient pas à jour, d'où sudo apt clean ; sudo apt autoclean.

Lance gnome-software depuis le terminal,  via cette commande :

gnome-software --verbose

ça donnera peut-être des pistes…

Reste cette grosse bizarrerie, quand même :

lalo@LaloLaptop:~$ sudo find ~ \( ! -user $USER -o ! -group $USER \) | wc -l
75199

Des choses qui ne t'appartiennent pas dans ton répertoire perso' c'est pas souhaitable.
On va essayer de savoir ce que c'est, en limitant la recherche aux dossiers :

find ~ ! -user $USER -type d

l'idée c'est de comprendre quoi t'appartient pas, et pour quelle(s) raison(s) - il peut y en avoir des légitimes…
Par exemple :
⋅ Ta machine est-elle dans un contexte multi-utilisateurs, avec des partages de documents entre utilisateurs ?
⋅ As-tu des points de montage de partitions dans ton $HOME ?
Et des pas légitimes :
⋅ t'est-il arrivé de lancer des appli's graphiques depuis le terminal en utilisant sudo ?
⋅ de copier chez toi des documents appartenant à quelqu'un d'autre via commande sudo cp ? Sans te les réapproprier ensuite ?
⋅ de changer des droits et permissions sur des éléments système ?


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#19 Le 20/05/2023, à 18:38

Lalo-Ubuntu

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Voilà le retour de la dernière commande :

lalo@LaloLaptop:~$ find ~ ! -user $USER -type d
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48@2x
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48@2x/places
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48@2x/actions
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48@2x/mimetypes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48@2x/web
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48@2x/emblems
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48@2x/devices
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48@2x/apps
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48@2x/unity
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48@2x/status
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48@2x/categories
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48@2x/emotes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/256x256
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/256x256/places
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/256x256/actions
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/256x256/mimetypes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/256x256/web
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/256x256/emblems
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/256x256/devices
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/256x256/apps
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/256x256/unity
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/256x256/status
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/256x256/categories
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/256x256/emotes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22/places
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22/actions
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22/mimetypes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22/web
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22/emblems
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22/devices
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22/apps
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22/unity
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22/status
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22/categories
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22/emotes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48/places
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48/actions
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48/mimetypes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48/web
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48/emblems
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48/devices
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48/apps
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48/unity
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48/status
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48/categories
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/48x48/emotes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/8x8
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/8x8/emblems
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/64x64
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/64x64/places
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/64x64/actions
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/64x64/mimetypes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/64x64/web
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/64x64/emblems
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/64x64/devices
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/64x64/apps
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/64x64/unity
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/64x64/status
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/64x64/categories
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/64x64/emotes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/96x96@2x
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/96x96@2x/places
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/96x96@2x/actions
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/96x96@2x/mimetypes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/96x96@2x/web
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/96x96@2x/emblems
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/96x96@2x/devices
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/96x96@2x/apps
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/96x96@2x/unity
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/96x96@2x/status
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/96x96@2x/categories
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/96x96@2x/emotes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22@2x
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22@2x/places
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22@2x/actions
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22@2x/mimetypes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22@2x/web
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22@2x/emblems
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22@2x/devices
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22@2x/apps
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22@2x/unity
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22@2x/status
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22@2x/categories
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/22x22@2x/emotes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/24x24
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/24x24/places
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/24x24/actions
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/24x24/mimetypes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/24x24/web
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/24x24/emblems
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/24x24/devices
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/24x24/apps
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/24x24/unity
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/24x24/status
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/24x24/categories
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/24x24/emotes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/8x8@2x
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/8x8@2x/emblems
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16@2x
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16@2x/places
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16@2x/actions
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16@2x/mimetypes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16@2x/web
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16@2x/emblems
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16@2x/devices
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16@2x/apps
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16@2x/unity
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16@2x/status
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16@2x/categories
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16@2x/emotes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16/places
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16/actions
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16/mimetypes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16/web
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16/emblems
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16/devices
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16/apps
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16/unity
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16/status
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16/categories
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/16x16/emotes
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/32x32
/home/lalo/.local/share/Trash/expunged/3132948688/Moka/32x32/places
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Il m'est arrivé de lancer nautilus en sudo pour supprimer certains fichier... Surment une raison pas légitime roll
Serait-ce lié à cela vu la mention "Trash" dans le chemin de ces dossiers ?

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#20 Le 20/05/2023, à 19:45

iznobe

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Bonjour ,
@Coeur Noir :
en partie HS , j ' ai trouvé la commande qui va bien pour afficher que les fichiers et ou répertoires de l' utilisateur cachés dont les permissions ne sont pas bonnes :

sudo find ~ -ipath "*.*" ! -user $USER -exec ls -ld {} \;

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#21 Le 20/05/2023, à 20:30

Coeur Noir

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

Lalo-Ubuntu a écrit :

Il m'est arrivé de lancer nautilus en sudo pour supprimer certains fichier... Surment une raison pas légitime roll
Serait-ce lié à cela vu la mention "Trash" dans le chemin de ces dossiers ?

Misère… ( rien de grave pour ta corbeille, vide la, c'est tout un - ou plusieurs - thèmes d'icônes, d'où le nombre conséquent d'éléments. )
Ça dit que tu as mis dans ta corbeille des éléments qui ne t'appartiennent pas - mais comme la corbeille t'appartient, tu dois pouvoir les effacer.

Misère parce que :

La commande sudo
on s'en sert uniquement pour des actions qui ont lieu dans un terminal ou dans une console.
on ne s'en sert JAMAIS pour lancer une application graphique ( qui ouvre sa propre fenêtre en dehors du terminal. )

Y'a des façons plus propres de gérer les thèmes d'icônes - surtout si ceux-là font partie de l'installation par défaut de ton OS, vaut mieux éviter de les enlever…
Si tu t'aperçois qu'il manque des icônes ici et là, je te recommande de réinstaller les packs d’icônes hicolor, ubuntu-mono et humanity ( qui sont toujours présentes sous ×buntu et servent de « repli » faute de mieux. )

sudo apt reinstall ubuntu-mono hicolor-icon-theme humanity-icon-theme

Pour installer hors système / seulement pour ton utilisateur :
⋅ un pack d'icônes il faut le ranger dans un dossier de ton $HOME/.local/share/icons/<ton_pack_d'icônes>
⋅ un thème, il faut le ranger dans $HOME/.local/share/themes/<ton_thème_supplémentaire>

Pas la peine d'aller modifier directement, avec les droits administrateurs, quoi que ce soit dans /usr/share/
…des modif's faites par là :
⋅ seront « écrasées » à la moindre mise à jour / mise à niveau des paquets système correspondants ;
⋅ concerneront tous les utilisateurs du système ( or ces autres, s'ils existent, n'ont pas forcément envie ou besoin de tes modif's… )

De toute façon, côté système, moins on modifie, mieux on se porte.
Et à certains endroits du système, pour certaines fonctionnalités, il existe des emplacements dédiés pour ajouter des config's personnalisées.

Y'a aussi des façons plus propres de lancer certains utilitaires graphiques avec des droits administrateurs
mais comme idéalement y'a pas besoin de ça, on en reparlera plus tard si nécessaire.

Dernière modification par Coeur Noir (Le 20/05/2023, à 20:51)


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#22 Le 23/05/2023, à 18:09

Lalo-Ubuntu

Re : [Résolu] Prévenir le démarrage automatique d'apps

C'est bon, j'ai vidé ma corbeille et réinstallés les paquets d’icônes. Je vais attendre de voir si mon problème initial avec gnome-software resurgit, parce que depuis les petits nettoyages que l'on a faits, il n'a pas eu lieu.

En tout cas, je prends bien note de ce que tu me dis, Coeur Noir, quant à l'utilisation de sudo. Et puis je n'oublie pas : With great power comes great responsibility !

Merci à vous pour votre aide

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